This interview with MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) and Jeff Housenbold, CEO of Beast Industries, delves into the phenomenal growth and business strategies behind the MrBeast empire.
Donaldson shares his journey from an 11-year-old obsessed with YouTube algorithms to becoming the world's most followed creator, emphasizing his dedication to studying virality.
Housenbold details the three main divisions of Beast Industries: media (YouTube, Beast Games, animation), consumer products (Feastables, MrBeast Labs toys, Beast Mobile, financial services), and a global creator platform.
The company, valued at $5.2 billion, is actively expanding its global reach, with 70% of its audience outside North America.
Donaldson stresses the importance of crafting compelling stories and making impactful content that resonates universally, rather than solely relying on monetary prizes.
They discuss the importance of being present on multiple platforms while highlighting YouTube's superior ability to build deep community engagement and a sustainable business.
Donaldson also touches on the ethical sourcing of chocolate for Feastables, demonstrating a commitment to philanthropy and positive social impact through his ventures.
MrBeast and Beast Industries CEO on stage at The New York Times DealBook Summit
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Jimmy Donaldson started making videos at age 11, driven by a deep curiosity about why some content went viral and others didn't. [00:01:41]
He spent his teenage years studying YouTube algorithms and what makes people watch and consume content. [00:02:05]
His mother initially thought his YouTube obsession was "crazy" and urged him to go to college. [00:02:32]
A glimpse into the past: Scheduled videos [00:02:51]
A video recorded by a teenage Jimmy Donaldson in 2015, scheduled for upload in 2025, shows his early aspirations for 1 million subscribers and doing YouTube as a job. [00:02:58]
He humorously revealed he made several such videos during high school when he was supposed to be studying. [00:03:56]
At the time of recording that specific video, he had 8,000 subscribers and 1.8 million views, which now seems "crazy." [00:03:33]
Donaldson explains that social media algorithms are a reflection of what people want to watch and consume. [00:05:05]
To create content that appeals globally, it must tap into intrinsic human emotions and experiences, avoiding culturally specific themes. [00:05:31]
An example given is a video where an ex-couple was offered $300,000 to spend 30 days chained together, a concept universally understood. [0005:48]
Evolution of video length and audience attention [00:06:12]
While platforms like TikTok thrive on short, fast-paced content, YouTube, especially in the US, sees longer videos (25-30 minutes) performing better. [00:06:55]
Over 50% of YouTube watch time now occurs on television, leading to a demand for longer, more engaging content. [00:06:59]
Social media algorithms have led to more niche content and fragmented fame, unlike the mainstream appeal of traditional celebrities like Tom Cruise. [00:08:11]
MrBeast's videos average 200 million views, but this is an anomaly; most creators achieve a few million views, indicating a diverse rather than centralized celebrity landscape. [00:09:05]
Building trust with an audience over time is crucial for sustained success, as viewers return to content they know will be good. [00:09:48]
Jimmy Donaldson films for 27-28 days a month and works every day, dedicating himself to creating content. [00:10:18]
With a production team of 300 people, he aims for optimal use of his time by constantly filming for the MrBeast channel. [00:10:02]
"Ultra grind mode" and focus on storytelling [00:11:13]
A recent tweet about entering "ultra grind mode" signifies a refocus on improving content quality and telling more impactful stories. [00:11:36]
While large prizes and spectacles are common, the goal is to create narratives that make people "feel things," as viewers can become numb to constant giveaways. [00:11:57]
The team constantly improves numerous "levers" in video production, from camera quality and editing to prize pools and set design, leading to subtle but noticeable enhancements over time. [00:12:56]
Multi-Platform Strategy and Audience Engagement [00:13:34]
To reach the widest audience, creators should be present on all major platforms (YouTube, TikTok, Instagram) as each serves a fragmented audience. [00:14:03]
However, YouTube is deemed "infinitely more dominant" for building a deep community and a sustainable business due to longer watch times and audience depth. [00:14:16]
Different platforms attract different demographics, for example, Instagram with a larger female audience, making a multi-platform approach essential for global reach. [00:15:12]
Jimmy intentionally curates his social media feeds to prioritize educational and beneficial content, actively using features to "trick" algorithms into recommending desired videos. [00:16:01]
He believes in using his platform for positive influence, inspiring good and supporting charitable causes like Team Trees and Team Seas. [00:16:35]
Donaldson acknowledges concerns about social media's impact on children but differentiates YouTube from other platforms like TikTok, citing YouTube's higher prevalence of educational content. [00:17:19]
He emphasizes that social media can be positive when used for educational or philanthropic purposes, such as inspiring children to participate in tree-planting events. [00:17:40]
Media Division: Accounts for half of the revenue, including the primary MrBeast YouTube channel, TikTok and Instagram shorts, Beast Games (season 2 airing in January), animation projects, and other emerging channels. [00:20:12]
Consumer Products and Services Division: Also accounts for half of the revenue, featuring: [00:20:32]
Feastables: The world's largest ethically sourced chocolate brand. [00:20:34]
MrBeast Labs: Toy brand, with an action figure currently ranked as the number one action figure in America. [00:20:41]
MrBeast and Jeff Housenbold discuss Beast Industries' global viewership and expansion.
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Beast Industries is a global media company, with 70% of its viewership outside North America. [00:22:02]
Feastables chocolate is ethically sourced, paying farmers a living income reference price to combat child labor on cacao farms, a cause Jimmy is passionate about. [00:24:22]
The company plans to build schools globally for children freed from child labor, demonstrating a commitment to positive change. [00:26:06]
The decision to partner with platforms like Amazon for "Beast Games" is driven by the format suitability; YouTube is for individual videos, while streaming platforms are for multi-episode series. [00:27:54]
Longer-form content on streaming allows for more complex storytelling and deeper audience investment. [00:28:09]
Streaming also targets an older demographic that might not be as active on YouTube. [00:29:51]
The first season of Beast Games, featuring 2,000 contestants competing for a $10 million prize, highlighted the challenge of having many unhappy participants. [00:31:51]
For season 2, the number of contestants was reduced, and efforts were made to select participants more familiar with MrBeast's content and expectations. [00:32:00]
Housenbold emphasizes that such large-scale productions are "investments" that build a global audience and brand loyalty, making subsequent seasons more efficient. [00:29:14]
Jimmy Donaldson draws inspiration from figures like Elon Musk for his ambition and ability to push boundaries across industries, and Steve Jobs for his obsession with product excellence. [00:34:05]
He avoids controversial political topics to maintain a positive role model image for his young audience and focus on areas where he can create tangible change, like ethical sourcing. [00:24:16]
Personal journey and family involvement [00:34:37]
MrBeast's mother watching him speak at the summit.
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Jimmy recounts defying his mother's expectations by secretly pursuing YouTube instead of college, eventually making enough money to hire her. [00:35:10]