How to Recover from a Significant Trading Loss Using "Revenge Investing"
Lit Nomad
Summary:
This video discusses the pitfalls of "revenge trading" and advocates for "revenge investing" as a more effective strategy to recover from significant financial losses.
- The speaker shares a cautionary tale of a quant trader friend who lost $2 million trading meme coins like Dogecoin, spiraling into impulsive "revenge trading" and ultimately ending up in jail.
- Revenge trading is described as a negative Expected Value (EV) activity, driven by emotion and ego, leading to rash decisions.
- In contrast, "revenge investing" involves making high-risk, high-return investments, but only if they are strongly positive EV.
- The speaker illustrates this with his own experience of losing $50,000 on a real estate investment. Instead of making impulsive trades, he strategically opted to stay in higher-beta stocks like the NASDAQ 100 over a longer period.
- This patient, positive EV investment approach allowed him to not only recover his initial loss but also gain an additional $200,000 compared to a more conservative S&P 500 investment, albeit over a 10-year period.
The Perils of Revenge Trading [0:00]
The speaker opens by recounting a cautionary tale about his friend, Dave, a highly intelligent quantitative trader.
- Dave was a fellow quant trader at a Goldman Sachs spin-off algorithmic trading firm in Chicago.
- He got his position by accepting the unpopular overnight shift covering European market hours.
- The trade desk consisted of the speaker, Dave (a senior quant trader), and their boss.
- Dave's downfall began with cryptocurrency trading.
- He started trading meme coins like Dogecoin.
- Initially profitable, he began losing money.
- This led to "revenge trading," an impulsive and irrational pattern where traders double down to quickly recoup losses.
- Revenge trading is considered negative Expected Value (EV) because decisions are made while "tilting" or in an emotional state, leading to poor judgment.
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- Dave's ego prevented him from accepting the initial losses, pushing him to keep doubling down.
- He ultimately lost his entire $2 million net worth.
- The emotional aftermath of the loss led to destructive behavior.
- Dave went on a bender, involving drinking and drug use.
- He engaged in a high-speed car chase with police in Chicago's Logan Square, resulting in his arrest and jail time.
The Strategy of Revenge Investing [4:27]
The speaker introduces "revenge investing" as the correct and statistically sound method to recover from significant losses, differentiating it from revenge trading.
- He illustrates this concept with a personal investment story.
- Fresh out of university, he sought early retirement.
- Leveraging "inside information" from his past cult affiliation, he learned the cult was investing hundreds of millions into a small university, aiming to gentrify the surrounding neighborhood.
- He bought a small condo on the outskirts of the university, anticipating property value appreciation.
- An unforeseen event led to a substantial loss.
- The cult leader died unexpectedly from a heart attack.
- His children began fighting over the inheritance, leading to lawsuits.
- All investments in the small town froze, and the local real estate market crashed.
- The speaker lost approximately $50,000, a significant sum for him at the time.
- Choosing "revenge investing" over "revenge trading."
- He resisted the urge to immediately double down or use leveraged trading to quickly recover his loss, recognizing that such emotional actions are negative EV.
- His philosophy: If he chose a high-risk investment that went against him, he shouldn't suddenly become conservative. He should continue making high-risk investments, but only if they are strongly positive EV.
- His "revenge investing" strategy involved a long-term, higher-risk portfolio.
- He committed to staying invested in stocks for his entire life.
- Instead of just the S&P 500, he allocated half his portfolio to the NASDAQ.
- The NASDAQ shares many companies with the S&P 500 (e.g., Apple) but has a higher "beta."
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- Higher beta means greater volatility; it goes up more in bull markets and down more in bear markets.
- Given the stock market's historical average upward trend, a higher beta meant accepting higher risk for potentially higher average returns over the long term.
- This strategy required significant patience, with his recovery taking approximately 10 years.
- The NASDAQ significantly outperformed the S&P 500 over this period, allowing him to recover his $50,000 loss and gain an additional $200,000 compared to if he had only invested in the S&P 500.
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- The core takeaway is that "revenge investing" (patient, positive EV, higher-risk investments) is the statistically sound way to recover, as opposed to "revenge trading" (impulsive, negative EV, emotional decisions).